The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Everyone Is Afraid: A Fable of Fear, Friendship, and Flourishing by Ron Macklin

Everyone Is Afraid: A Fable of Fear, Friendship, and Flourishing by Ron Macklin

In an age where exterior accomplishments and societal validation measure success, one man dares to ask the unspoken question: What if everyone is afraid? Ron discovers the universality of fear and embarks on a journey through his memories, life lessons, and an unexpected encounter with Dr. Jerko. Inspired by the true stories of his challenges and a room full of top executives, this captivating fable unravels the intricate tapestry of fear woven into the fabric of every human soul.

Join Alex, Sheri, Teddy, Bhavani, Desiree, Evi, Peter, and a cast of relatable characters as their narratives intertwine, revealing the stories we keep hidden, the shields we construct, and the truths we often deny. Based on vulnerable conversations and decades of personal experience, this poignant tale is not just about fear but the profound moments of realization, understanding, and connection that come when we confront it.

Amidst the trials, regrets, and hidden moments each character faces, readers will find reflections of their own lives and the shared human experience of fear. Ron’s story is an invitation – to drop the shields, embrace the learning, and discover that beneath our individual stories, we are united in our fears and our courage.

Embark on this transformative journey and find solace in the realization that while everyone may be afraid, we are never alone in our fear. Dive into this tale of discovery and come out with a renewed understanding of the human spirit.

Show Notes
About The Guest(s):

Ron Macklin is an author and leadership expert who has spent over 20 years studying and implementing effective team-building strategies. He is the creator of the Macklin Connection Method and the founder of Macklin Connection, a company that helps organizations build strong and successful teams. Ron has a degree in engineering and has led teams that set world records and won numerous awards for customer satisfaction. His new book, “Everyone is Afraid: A Fable of Fear, Friendship, and Flourishing,” explores the power of vulnerability and connection in building successful teams.


Ron Macklin joins Chris Voss on The Chris Voss Show to discuss his new book, “Everyone is Afraid: A Fable of Fear, Friendship, and Flourishing.” Ron shares insights from his 20-year journey in building and leading teams, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability and connection in creating successful organizations. He explains how fear can hold individuals and teams back and offers strategies for overcoming fear and building authentic relationships. Ron also discusses the power of self-directed teams and the role of culture in shaping organizational success.

Key Takeaways:

Building authentic relationships requires vulnerability and open communication.

Fear can prevent individuals and teams from reaching their full potential.

Self-directed teams can be more innovative and resilient than hierarchical organizations.

Dignity and respect are essential for creating a positive work culture.

Recognizing and challenging the stories we tell ourselves can lead to personal and professional growth.


“The more powerful people I met in the world, successful and capable, they talked about their fears.” – Ron Macklin

“When we can notice that we’re afraid, there’s nothing wrong with being afraid.” – Ron Macklin

“Teams that are self-directed and have open communication outperform hierarchical teams.” – Ron Macklin

“People come to work every day to do a good job and make a difference.” – Ron Macklin

“Building authentic relationships requires dropping our shields and embracing vulnerability.” – Ron Macklin


Ron realized early in his engineering career that he had a passion for building and leading teams. And he realized that to succeed, he needed to build a deep network of support. He needed to learn why people connect and how they create results together. This realization led him on a 30-year journey that culminated in the creation of the 7-step Macklin Method and the launch of Macklin Connection. Ron earned a degree in engineering from Kansas State University and quickly grew into leadership positions in his budding career. Ron grew to lead teams that set nine world records and won dozens of customer satisfaction awards. At Siemens, for example, Ron led a support division with 350 employees that worked over 5 million hours without a lost-time injury and was voted “the best place to work in Houston” by the Houston Business Journal. Twice Ron has created a growth culture responsible for increasing profits by $20 million, and has led seven different groups from worst- to best-in-class. Today, Ron is the president of Macklin Connection, overseeing our programs and extending the reach of the organization worldwide. He continues to lead programs and coach teams and individuals. A Wichita, Kansas native, Ron and his wife Koni have three adult children, Garrett, Lorin and Brennan.